Saturday, October 3, 2020

Do's and don'ts

DH and I were chatting the other day about how people like to "judge" or "wonder" or whatever. Seems like a lot of it's been going on lately. Like how do we afford this house? We've heard comments "what? did you win the lottery?" "or "I'm not rich like you", or like the day dh was outside at the end of the driveway, dirty as heck while shoveling wheel barrows of rock all day. The garbage truck guy (a new guy) pulls up and gets out and has a "tag" and says to dh "we are changing our route time from afternoon to morning, could you give this to the owners?" Dh was like "ok" LOL. Then the guy says you just work here right? and dh says...ya...sure....ROFLOL. I guess dh doesn't look the part the guy expects, haha.

First off, they don't have any idea how much money I make a year. Second, (and third, and fourth...) they don't look at what we don't spend money on. And lastly, we do have a mortgage payment and it's large, but we don't have all the other payments a lot of people typically have....cars, boats, camper, credit cards. I'll bet if you add up what other people have in extra payments they are spending just as much between their mortgage/rent, other payments, as we are spending on our one payment. Our friends (who have a teenager in high school and a 19 yr old living at home) have 3 car payments. They have a camper trailer payment. They have lots of credit card payments. And they have a nice house (and payment), yet look at us like we are nuts. The two of them both work and from what guy has said in the past they combined make about what I make a year. I so badly want to say ya, but if you add up all your payments I'll bet you are spending the same if not more a month then we are on our house! Plus he drinks a lot and she drinks some. I'll bet their liquor expense itself is a couple hundred a month.

We don't have a car or rv toy payment. DH's truck is a 1999 (he's had since new) and my car is a 2011. My car was purchased slightly used with 4500 miles on it (it still had the plastic on the floor and smelled new)and we got it for half the price as new.

We don't smoke or drink - that can really add up, especially if you like to drink at restaurants or bars. A pack a day habit, at an average cost of a pack, costs someone about $200 a month. Imagine if it was both husband and wife. I really don't know what a couple who drinks most weekends will spend for booze a week. Wine can be pricey, too.

We rarely take a vacation. Our last vacation was in 2007 (or maybe it was 2008) to Disneyworld.  Besides, our new home is like being at a vacation spot year round :) (our friends mentioned above take one big vacation to Mexico or Hawaii every year)

I work from home, so I don't have commute costs.

We (as much as possible) do all our own home and car maintenance. Our neighbors hire a lot of it out and I'm sure that adds up. Like yesterday they had some guys there aerating their lawn. They hire to have it fertilized and weed control several times a year. Soon they will be having the guy come to blow out the sprinkler system before it freezes. This is all stuff dh does himself.

We don't go out all the time for dinners and entertainment. A handful of dinners out during the year is about it.

We cut our own hair. For his hair (what is left of it, haha) I have a some Wahl haircut clippers. My hair is about shoulder length, so easy to just trim myself (thanks to a youtube video how to)

We don't wear expensive designer clothes and we buy only when needing replaced. 

I'm "low maintenance". I wear minimal makeup, jewelry, don't get my nails done.

We have inexpensive interests to keep us busy. We both like being on our computers/internet, we watch some tv and movies (though don't pay for expensive cable/satellite), I read ebooks downloaded free from the library.

We buy older cell phone models and our plan is the minimum data plan. I have a 6s and his is a 7. Since we are home 95% of the time, we can use our home wi-fi for data, so a 3gb data plan is more than enough for us. It's $77 a month (with taxes added on). There might be cheaper plans with other cell phone companies, but here in our rural spot Verizon beats the others hands down for service reception and it's always been very reliable anywhere we go. 

Our internet service is through our phone company. Not super speedy by any means, but they do offer 3 different speeds. Rather than just assume I need to pay for the highest speed they offer I tried the lower speed and have no issues with it at all. I save $20-$50 a month compared to their 2 higher speed/priced plans.

I'm not too snooty to shop at Walmart. It's just cheaper for food/supplies than a regular grocery store, unless you want to have to constantly pay attention to what is on sale and when at the regular grocery stores. Not living close to the city it's just too hard for me to try to work around all the sales and shop at more than one store.

For everything thing else I shop online for bargains and always look for a coupon code before checking out. 

We put in a heat pump heating and a/c system. We have 3 "zones": downstairs, upstairs and the bonus room. We keep the bonus room minimal heat or a/c but the rest we keep comfortable. A/C all summer for this whole big house and my electric bill is barely over $100 a month. Winters are higher of course, but still cheaper than what I was spending a month for our small house in town, a 1/3 of the size. Our cost for the system should pay for itself in about 7 years.

There are lots of small things we do to save money, but you get the gist. I guess what dh was most feeling was don't judge a book by it's cover :) And what works for one couple/family might not work for another. We all make our choices that best fit us.


20 comments:

  1. So true! About 6-7 weeks ago my high school buddies and I were together at our alumni club and our dentist friend who actually makes a ton of money, asked four of us how could we be retired? I told him "life choices". He lives in a house with a yard. I live in a two bedroom apartment. He has a son going to College in Canada, I don't. I have savings to support my passive income and I live within my means. My only luxury is to travel and I can budget for that.

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    1. Exactly - life choices! years ago when our kids were school aged and we did the racing with them all our extra money went to that for quite a few years. That was our choice at the time.

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  2. I completely relate to this post. My husband and I live similar to you and your dh. People who live & SPEND paycheck to paycheck & have debt, other than a mortgage, just can't comprehend.
    They always seem to be comparing lifestyles. I would rather have a decent home than spend big $$$ on vacations & other entertainment.
    Priorities, I guess. 😊

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    1. I think there are people that like to be out and about doing things (which costs money) and that's ok, too, but don't look sideways at me for what I choose to spend my money on and think "how can they have this and I can't?". A week or 10 day vacation every year has got to cost a few thousand. To me that's $250 a month towards a house payment. And since I'm a homebody I'd rather allocate what money I do have to a nice home.

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  3. I totally agree! No one sees what you DON'T spend money on (well some may have noticed my last vehicle was 19 years old when I replaced it) then wonder how you have nice things.
    Hard work and life choices!
    Susan

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    1. Definitely agree on the hard work! My dh might not have a job outside the home, but he works very hard around here. He's given himself the title of "Maintenance Engineer" LOL. Even people will balk at DH having his pick up truck! It's a 1999 F-350, in pristine condition (only 55,000 miles on it) because he doesn't drive it a lot. I don't know how many of his friends have said "why do you even have that? you don't drive it?" DH is like well...#1, it's paid for, #2 when I do need a pick up or to pull my trailer, it's there and available. Why would I go out and spend $80k on a new pickup when I have this paid off (back in 2003 LOL) truck that is in really super condition AND I have it to use when I need a truck?

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  4. The seeing what you DON'T spend money on is something most don't get. When I first left work prior to my eldest being born, you wouldn't believe all the "lucky you" comments, (only ruder), I got. It's not luck, it's prioritizing and planning. On the other hand, not a lot of sympathy my way for people who spend as fast as they earn, and gripe about having to have two incomes. I planned this lifestyle prior to getting married...I wouldn't have married somebody who wasn't on board with the plan in the first place. It sounds calculating to some, but I see it more as joining forces with someone who has similar values and priorities.

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    1. I'm a bit tired of the "lucky you" (but like you said only ruder") comments, too. DH doesn't keep up this yard by sitting in the house drinking beer or watching football every weekend.

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  5. I had a 4000 sq ft house and women who divorced about the same time I did all lost their homes or got kicked out of apartments. They partied, vacationed, bought new clothes for clubbing, smoked, drank and wondered why I did not join in or ever go on vacation. Well, I liked the stability of a home. I could shut off rooms during the winter, and did not want or need to heat all of it. My mortgage was less than their apartments.

    When I was taking a class "Women and Work," I remarked that families could get along without the woman working. All the women were up in arms, thinking I was against women working. The teacher had to calm them down. I stated that people thought they had to have things they really did not need--two cars and one for each teen, TV in every person's bedroom, kitchen, den, fancy vacations, new car every year or two, new "stuff" all the time. I made a case for less consumption but also added that the woman working was her choice, but a choice that did not include being forced to spend every dime and more, going into debt. The professor and all the students agreed in the end.

    My husband and I agreed I would stay home with children we had. It worked and we bought a house. We did not splurge ever. When I did get a car, we kept it for 7 years and I put 7,000 miles on it which included a trip to Mexico and one to Canada. I cooked most all meals from scratch and made my clothes and those of two daughters. Neither of us smoked or drank.

    I suppose we were boring, but it worked.

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    1. We are sure boring now, too, but that's ok! Shoot, my car now has oveer 130,000 miles on it and we've had it 10 years now.

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  6. Oh how I understand what you're saying. I mentioned on my blog about our (day) trip to Italy to go to the market in Turin (a 5 hour bus journey from here) when I bumped into a former colleague who was all "oh it's ok for you to retire, you were a higher grade than me" and then proceeded to tell me how she went to Italy every weekend clothes shopping! The biggest "thing" for me though was seeing how much my colleagues spent on breakfast and lunch at work. I brown-bagged it and saved an absolute fortune. My sister's son-in-law's family always refer to my sister and her husband as the "rich family" but then as my BIL said, he didn't buy fancy clothes, didn't go down the pub every night (or ever), didn't have a new kitchen every 2 years and so on. And then my ex smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day (2 x €10) so €20/day. That's more than a car payment and he wonders why he's broke now that we're divorced. Had to have the fancy car while I was quite content with my old, well-maintained beater. I do like to travel but am prepared to cut the spending on the unimportant things in order to do so. I don't judge what other people choose to spend their money on but I also don't like to hear how "lucky" I am to be retired either!

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    1. I hear you, I don't like to be judged with how I spend my money either or act like we are so lucky. It's not luck. It was hard work and other sacrifices. We realize we can't have everything, so had to figure out what was our priority. Every so often, I'm so tempted to reply back with a "but we don't have such and such, or don't do such and such, like you do!"

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  7. And you started over bankruptcy

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    1. Yes, we did, about 10 years ago. It certainly helped to get back on the right track after DH's health was declining and then the economy crashed and he lost his business. Stupidly, we never put his sole proprietorship business in a corporation to protect ourselves from personal bankruptcy. I tried as long as I could to cover his business loans with my income, but eventually it was just too much. Keeping a roof over our head and my family fed had to come first.

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  8. I can relate to this, because we have a net worth in the high 7-figures & you would never know it! I love to shop at thrift stores & we have always lived well below our means. The only way you might know we were wealthy is if you knew we were putting 4 nieces/nephews through college (because why leave them a pile of money when they could use it now & we can see the results?) - and we do take nice vacationsand take family with us (usually this is the nieces/nephews Christmas gift - a trip). But our home, our cars, our clothes - all average. We drive our cars like you - into the ground! ha ha Last Honda I drove for 15 years & then gave it to a friend (whose son then totaled it! gah!). One other thing we do is regularly donate $$ to community organizations for the less fortunate. Because that's so important to us. Other than that......just your average people! :-)

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    1. what nice gifts to your nieces and nephews! I hope they sure do appreciate that. Probably better to live like you do "under the radar" with how you spend your money, less people being judgemental ;)

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  9. We've saved for years, and I don't feel deprived at all. Our lifestyle will allow Hubby to retire next year.

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    1. congrats to you and hubby! I'm sure you will enjoy your retirement

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  10. You can have anything you want just not at the same time.ive shared a home and am now downsizing to an apartment do I can travel how I want (someday again), but hood fabric and yarn and eat out at will (someday again). I think it's hilarious about the trash guy. How is your hubby supposed for dress, lol,.

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    1. that's what I think dh has finally learned, LOL. You can have stuff - just not all at the same time! Our time right now is this beautiful home. We got a good laugh at the trash guy. We can only guess he thought someone who looked like dh looked wouldn't own this home, haha.

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