Thursday, December 15, 2022

People and dogs

I don't know why we even try or expect people to act decently and respect boundaries. So, dh is outside plowing when I finish up work yesterday. I go out to the chicken coop to tend to them and hear dh out at the entrance to our neighborhood talking with young neighbor, who lives down at the end of the street, who has the hyper dog now being let loose all the time. She was there waiting for the school bus to pull up. So, I go back inside and hear dh back to plowing.

A few minutes later I get a text from young neighbor: Hello! It sounds like D is really being a pain in the ass. Coming over and crapping in your yard and making (Mr's) dogs bark, jumping on your doors… I’m so sorry that he’s doing that!

I read the text and think "ok! she gets it and is going to take care of the problem". I'm trying to think of what to text in reply and before I can think of what to say she keeps texting:

I’m not sure what to do about it right now.. but I did tell (dh) though, seriously STOP giving him treats and you really can kick him in the butt when he shows up. Maybe we could try stopping any positive reinforcement whatsoever to start with (act like you hate him?) and see if that helps?

WHAT?!! Seriously? She doesn't know what to do about it?! No, we are not kicking your dog (and she meant that literally) and no, we are not being mean to your dog. I was just speechless and no idea what to even reply. I knew I needed to reply, but dang! I didn't want to be super nice because that just lets her keep doing it. But I didn't want to sound rude, either. I had no clue what to say back to her.

Then another text:  And if he's still a nuisance when spring rolls around we'll see about a fence or something maybe? Sorry about him

OMG! So, because you don't want to keep your animal on your property, it's ok if he just goes and does whatever he wants, wherever he wants and it's our problem, not yours?! At this point I'm just keeping my fingers off my phone because what I would text back at this point would not come across as very neighborly at all.

So, then dh comes inside from plowing. I say to him, apparently you talked to young neighbor about the dog again? He says ya....and she's not going to do anything about it! I said ya....she texted me about it. I told him what the texts said and he said, that's not what she told him. She told dh that she wasn't getting a fence unless the other neighbors (meaning the eventual neighbors in the 3 2-acre lots between us) decide to "be assholes about it". 

Anyway, while she's out at the corner talking to dh and her son is getting off the bus, she has the dog on a leash and he's constantly trying to jump up onto the mule/plow. She kept pulling him back and saying 'he doesn't jump up on our stuff". Dh said she kept jerking him back on the leash and he kept jumping up against the mule. (I'm thinking to myself how hard is it to take a couple steps back so he can't reach the vehicle he's jumping up on? or shorten the lead you are giving him). Anyhow, dh offers little boy if he wants to ride down the street with him to "help plow" and of course he does, LOL. Mom walks back home with the dog. They get down to their property and dh said they are almost snowed in their driveway and have not plowed. She says, ya, our quad broke. DH says I'll plow it for you, no problem. With this big plow he has now he was done in short order and at least they have a path out their driveway now.

Then she texts me again (I still have not responded to her). A big thank you to dh for plowing!! It's so nice. I finally replied and said "He loves to plow and thank you for working on the dog problem". At this point there is really nothing that will help the situation when someone thinks it's ok that their hyper dog doesn't need any boundaries. Think of the hyper-ist dog you can and this is this dog.  And we could totally deal with this if it was like before - where it was just randomly, every so often, the dog would come and be annoying. Now it's every day, twice a day. An hour or so before this conversation (dh had just gone outside to start shoveling) Mr and Mrs got home. They let their dogs out of their kennel and were outside with them while they ran around their property. Then here comes the hyper dog....just causing total chaos with their 3 dogs to the point they had to put their dogs inside the house, just to get it all calmed down and so that the other neighbor's dog would leave.

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  1. There is no animal enforcement you can call. You're going to have to be direct and tell her enough, you don't want her dog crapping in your yard. How dumb are people?

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    1. No animal enforcement at all out here. DH even went so far as to call the guy who put up our fence to eventually get him out here to add gates to the walk thru areas on each side of the gate piers. Well, now that dh temporarily blocked the walk thru access off with the big garbage cans, the dog just now crawls under the gate, so spending the money on gates to block it isn't going to do any good.

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  2. Wow, if your immediate neighbours complained would that help? I really can't believe that lady though!!!!! I'm pretty sure here that dog wouldn't live long. I'm not advocating it but nuisance dogs do seem to have a way of disappearing! My friend's beautiful dog was an escape artist and of course we're in farming country. After him being lost for a few days she found him dead next to the railway line but she's pretty sure it wasn't the train that killed him!

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    1. I'm not sure if they would/or have complained about the dog being there, other than Mr has made the same comment to dh "what a hyper dog that is". If I had dogs out in a kennel run like they do and another dog was constantly coming over and making my dogs go crazy, I wouldn't like it and I really don't think they do, but maybe if they complained, too, it might help. I think next time I chat with Mr and/or Mrs, I'll bring it up that we tried to resolve it. I honestly had the same thought...well then maybe one day your dog just isn't going to show up back home.....(but of course we could never do something like that, but who knows what 2 or 3 future neighbors between us might do....)

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  3. How about tying him up to the driveway post and then texting her to come and get him? If she has to get him every day maybe she will keep him home.

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    1. ooh! I kind of like that idea! I told dh I'm going to be livid if/when (because it's only a matter of time) the dog tears out/apart one of our Christmas inflatables.

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  4. That is so frustrating. I live in the suburbs and some neighbour let their dog poop on our sidewalk and just left it ... yuck! Kicking the dog is not the answer, maybe stopping treats isn't bad. But again, this is only your problem because they cannot control their dog. He needs a fence and a shock collar (which sounds mean to even type but this is ridiculous)!

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    1. Dh has definitely stopped the treats, but barring that, this dog should not be our issue to deal with. One of the reasons we aren't getting another dog is we want a break from taking care of one, let alone all the daily cleaning up the yard of poop. Now dh has to clean up after their dog :(

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    2. Yupp, you're getting a dog for free that you did not ask for. The fact that they know the dog is over there so frequently and do nothing about it is unfortunate. Why is he running around all day??? SMH!

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    3. Our guess is a couple of reasons. She works from home (her dh works at an office, drops 2 yr old at daycare, and the kindergartner is now gone from 7:40am to 4:40pm). She doesn't want to take the time to give the dog attention, nor do they want him to poop in their yard/property that they have to take the time to clean up. It's easier just to let him out/or off the chain outside.

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    4. Having a dog added to my life I didn't intend, but will make the best of it, she infuriates me. This is a human problem not a dog problem. Ours is a rescue dog with all kinds of trauma, and we've figured basic things that work. She wants a dig but no work and thinks living in the country gets her off the hook.

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    5. 1000% a human problem. They want the dog because it's like hey look at us, we live rural and we have a bird dog, don't we look cool? The next time they ask us again if we are getting another dog my response is going to be "no...it's a ton of work training a puppy/dog and we're just not ready to do that again".

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    6. Sounds like the owners need a kick in the butt, not the dog. I like the above idea of tying him and asking her to get it.

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  5. Bottom line...you can't fix stupid!

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  6. Tie the dog and text that you are tired of cleaning up poop, only use a crude term. And, tell her the price of the blowup decoration that he is bothering. Maybe that will work. Also, clean up the poop and leave the bag in their driveway. If that does not work, pour the poop onto the driveway. You could also try asking her or husband to come clean up the poop from your yard, that you don't have a dog because you are tired of cleaning up poop.

    Also, no more snow plowing. When you do that, it signals to them that you are okay with the dog's behavior and their behavior. He should also not talk with her. That signals his desire to get along. I know he does want to get along, but she is not planning to stop her behavior.

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    1. I like the idea of saying do you or your husband want to come walk through our property/yard picking up your dogs poop so we don't have to?

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  7. We had a neighbor whose dog was always using our yard as his toilet. DH tried to talk to her, and she was sure it wasn't her dog. /eye roll So finally DH picked up the poop and left it on her doorstep. She was livid but it stopped.

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    1. good for your dh! I don't think we could do that, LOL. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around how she thinks if (future) neighbors complain about her dog being on their property is them being the a-holes?

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  8. Why are you tiptoeing around the issue with the neighbour but then ranting about it here? Tackle it head on tell the neighbour exactly what needs to change, who cares what they think

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    1. DH did, twice with her and once with her dh. He told her their dog is being a problem to us and how. She flat out said they aren't going to do anything different. So now what does a person do? And I think we've been over this before, I can rant about whatever I want to rant about on my blog.

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