The confrontation

So, dh goes over to them pounding their no trespassing sign in. Dh has no problem saying what's on his mind, especially when he's pissed off. Dh and our friend are standing there, where our fence ends (on that side it doesn't go all the way to the edge of the bank). I couldn't not hear what was being said. Just some yelling back and forth for a minute, at first. Then it was normal tone conversation. The whole conversation lasted probably 20 minutes and by the time it was done they had all somehow moved farther down the fence, about halfway towards the front of the properties. I knew dh would be able to recount most of it to me, but in his being upset, I also knew he'd either forget parts or get the timeline of what was said when maybe wrong a little. But, I knew having our friend there, he'd get it all. Plus I knew if I walked over there, while I would be calm, I'd also just be contributing to the talking ,which wasn't needed. He didn't say one word the whole time, just stood next to dh. He's a big guy (think biker guy haha). After about 20 minutes a locating car pulls up to the front of their property so the conversation was over as the couple went to deal with that. 

Basically the guy and his wife are complete liars. They lied about stuff they said to us (things we both heard, not just dh, things he told Mr., things he told the county atty), they contradicted themselves several times within this 20 minute conversation. They'd say one thing and then turn it around later or say they didn't say that, when they just said it 5 minutes earlier. Dh said he flat out told them a couple of times, "you are liars". The wife says "this is his dream to build this". Dh said so...that supersedes the rest of us in the subdivisions dreams to live in a residential neighborhood? The guy said Mr and Mrs house doesn't meet the covenants, it's concrete. Dh said there isn't a person in their right mind who can look at that house and have a problem with it. It's a luxury high end type home. It's the nicest house in the neighborhood, so far (in fact one of the nicest in the whole dang county). Dh then said and my property isn't 60% hardcovered, it's 22%. The guy then claimed he never told the county atty that (oh, and dh had called the county atty Wednesday afternoon and talked to him, also, and he also told dh the guy said it was 60%).

The guy went on about how we're ganging up on him, it was out of the blue. Dh said every conversation with you, you have told us more and more of your plans and your plans kept getting more and more in violation of the covenants. The guy says well you should have said something. Dh said "I did! I talked with you both for 2 HOURS 2 weeks ago and numerous times I mentioned our covenants and also said I was not going to be accepting of a new road access added in". Then the wife says "well, that access road was just for my car". What?! you need your own access road to pull out your driveway? You can't just turn out onto our street like everyone else does and go out the one entrance like everyone else?! Dh didn't say this. He knew she was now just trying to change the story away from it being an extra access for his dump truck and heavy equipment. Dh then said the rest of us in the subdivision had to start somewhere with you in addressing this...so we sent the letter.

At one point the wife says "why is he here?", referring to our friend standing next to dh. Dh just said "he's a guest at my house and he can be anywhere he wants on my property". Then she pointed down to the hose that dh has running along the base of the fence, on their side of the fence and it goes to some sprinklers he has attached to the fence for watering our lawn along that side of the fence. She said "get your hose off our property".  Dh said that it isn't on your property. As I've said, more than once, I had the fence put inside the property line 4 inches, so this 1/2" inch hose isn't on your property.

Then the neighbors goofy dog, from lot 7, comes running up....for his daily treat visit and ball throwing session with dh and then he usually runs over to see Mr and Mrs dogs in their outdoor kennel run and then goes back home. The wife says "who's is this dog? did you get another dog?" I'm sure they have no idea we now have no dogs and she thought she was going to get us on a covenant violation, LOL. Dh said no, this is lot 7's dog and he called him over to our property. 

When the locator showed up they left it as they we're still going to build their 8000 sf steel building because Mr and Mr's house was concrete. Dh just said ok...then I guess we'll all be seeing you in court and walked back inside our house.

I had texted our other neighbors when it started and said they were here yelling at dh over the letter we all sent. Mr and Mrs weren't home. Young neighbor gal was. We had already made plans to go down to their house when her son got home from school  (he's now in Kindergarten). Our friend, who lost his brother earlier this year, and had cleaned out his storage unit had found a box of old little toy trucks and excavating type stuff. He didn't know what to do with it, as they have no kids/grandkids and he knew dh and our little neighbor boy are buddies, and that our neighbor boy loves dump trucks, loaders, etc, so he decided to bring the box up and give it to our neighbor boy. So, at 5pm we all went down to their house to give him the toys and give young neighbor all the details of the conversation with the guy and his wife. Her dh got home shortly after we got there. They both said the first time they met the guy they immediately did not really like him and could tell right off he was a narcissist type personality. I guess young neighbor guys dad is one and he can spot one right off after spending his life growing up with him. Dh said ya, the guy lies constantly and even his wife was just as bad. They said the problem with those type of people is that they believe their own lies. Wife was now worried about their dog getting poisoned by the guy. I said I don't trust them at all now. Young neighbor wife is a bit like dh, can get mad and at one point she went into a rant about something to do with the guy, LOL. I can't remember now what she said. Her dh is like me, calm, haha. We all said well, I guess we'll be getting an attorney to represent us now. Later that evening dh talked to Mrs and told her all what was said when dh argued with the guy and his wife.

This is what we now get to look at either our our bedroom window or from our living room side window, or the side of our back patio. Tacky.

We all kind of joked about various things we could put in front of it. It's like an inch inside the property line on their side, of course. I said maybe I'll just plant some flowers in the ground, haha. I think when it snows, I'm going to build a big snowman in front of it, so I don't have to look at it all winter.

In discussing it later that evening with our visiting friends, she said this guy is just full of shit. He doesn't have a pot to piss in and he's just trying to act all tough and bully you all into getting his way. She said if he did have money to burn he wouldn't need to finance building the steel building. He told us when he was here that one day (now 3 weeks ago) that since their house in the other state hasn't sold and they want to get started on this property, they were just going to finance the building. She said she would be surprised if he wants to spend a lot of what money he has/will have (from sale of house), that he plans on using to build and to apparently buy a dump truck, on an attorney to fight 4 of us. She said he'd be really stupid to try to fight this.

On a little side story of this guy - he told Mr. when he called him a few weeks ago to inquire who to contact about bidding on a construction job (why he would call Mr we have no idea, other than I think I mentioned before we think just to see if Mr would bring up him operating a business out of this property) he said to Mr. he plans on "putting the hurt on excavating guy (the main heavy construction guy in this county)". In the 2 hour conversation with us 3 weeks ago he also made 2 comments about some property owners about 5 miles from us. "Ya, so and so has cancer and is dying, so I'm going to pick up that property"..."and the guy on the other side of him, with the cows...he died and I'm going to pick up that property too". WHAT?! Obviously the guy is an "obituary reader" to see who died and he can buy their stuff cheap. DH just kind of went "oh, interesting" when he said this. The guy is a nutcase! First off...these farming/pasture lands 5 miles from us are large large properties owned by 3 families that are all interconnected. They aren't selling. These properties are generational owned. Second off he apparently has no idea that excavating guy, that he's going to put the hurt on and take some of his construction business, is a son of one of these families. We know excavating guy - he did our foundations and such. Dh still talks to him every so often. Dh calls him up and says just thought you might want a forewarning (laughing) that this guy who bought the lots next to us is going to "put the hurt on you". Excavating guy says ya, I heard that. Someone told me during the fair (well, the fair was first of August, so obviously the guy has been going around telling this to people for quite awhile now). He just laughed and so did dh. Then he said ya, the guy showed up here yesterday....telling me he has equipment and if I ever needed any extra help, let him know. Excav. guy just blew him off. You walk around town running your mouth you are going to "put the hurt" on him and then have the nerve to go ask him for work? Excav. guy also laughed when dh told him about him picking up the properties of his uncle with cancer and the other guy that died recently. He said those properties getting sold to outside family is not going to happen. The guy is delusional. He said he describes him as a "tire kicker".

Friday morning we woke up to an email from the guy, forwarded to all of us by Mr.......